On episode 168 of The Pirate Monk Podcast, the guys welcome author, speaking agent, and fellow struggler on the path, Wes Yoder, Our conversation may meander, but we will touch on confession, sorrow, lament, healing, fathers, and Elvis.
Show Notes
Bond of Brothers by Wes Yoder
Wes Yoder is the founder and President of The Ambassador Agency in Franklin, Tenn. He is also the local representative for The New Canaan Society which has groups across the nation. Click here to find a group meeting near you.
Quotes Used
Wes referred to The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis. In this novel, Lewis paints broad pictures about our entry and existence in heaven. It’s worth the read. A third-party summary of the section on heaven is:
In The Great Divorce Lewis paints a picture in which the closer we get to God, the more real everything gets. Hell (the farthest place from God) would only be the size of a pebble on earth, earth the size of a pebble in heaven. When souls first arrive in heaven, their appearance is as ghosts. Their forms have been expanded, like blowing up a balloon, so that they match the size of things in heaven, but they are like empty air. A body is outlined but they are transparent and so weightless that they cannot bend the grass beneath their feet (it feels like needles to walk on), nor sink in water, nor pick up a heavenly apple from the ground. Those residents of heaven who come to greet the ghosts have been filled with the fullness of God’s Divine Being. As God is more solid than anything on earth, in Lewis’s vision, so these people are more solid, more real, and now more fully human than any human being in our world.
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Michael Card, a mutual friend of Nate Larkin and Wes Yoder (and one of our favorite songwriters), wrote a book and a set of songs on lament.
Wes made reference to a number of authors and recording artists his career has crossed paths with. If you’re curious, check out their work.
Scripture Used
Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.
The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
Wes commented that the Hebrew word for “Spirit of God” in this verse is in the feminine gender. Check out this online Strong’s Concordance entry for more information.
Music Used
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